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[glen]

hi calamarifreak. welcome to the forum!

[ru 12 mug]

Hi all, I reckon when full moon, the best colour is black. try it on if you hook on the biggest on, give me a big hug for sure ~

I think your right on the money with that comment as I used a brown shrimp hunter on the full moon last year and my mate used it the night before and it KICKED BUTT!!!
it out fished my other favourite colour jigs by 3 to 1 on both nights.
thats evidence enough for me.
mug

[bluewaterhunter]

hi calamari freak
i agree mate....dark browns with a hint of metalic tones do the job very nicely.

This whole thread is academic anyway because squid are color blind!!!
Cheers

Blue.

[ru 12 mug]

I'd say your right there BW as I use bright orange in the day time and they jump all over it and brown at night so they must be colour blind.
try this
your a squid laying in the water on a bright moonlit night and a dark prawn shape passes overhead.....what would you do????
nail it!!
makes good logic to me
mug

[pisces_australis]

The one that catches the Squid

[M4ttyboi]

I got a Yamashita 2.5 in a natural colour today and tried it out at Mt Martha and it seemed to attract mostly good sized ones but when i changed to a fluro one I only got little ones.
I'll be using natural colours from now on I recon.
At one stage I got 6 about 700g ones in 6 casts. Bloody Great Fun!!!

[glen]

you caught the whole school!! nice work!

[masejess33]

when the squid are on they will take anything.
ofcourse its better to use a glow jig at night or a bright jig in dirty water.

better jigs sink better and dart better but thats only if you jig them the way they are made to be jigged.
its like a knife, we dont use butter knifes to cut a steak......

use a jig the way it has been designed to be used and your catch rate will go through the roof, at the start i was a one or two squid man now 5 or 10 depending on how long i stay.
dont be scared to watch people and see what they do, or ask questions...
or youtube!!!

[Salty_Dog]

Great reply, i wish i knew how to use my jigs better....

There is nothing more frustrating than watching a squid swim to... and passed your jig.
And then you see another guy not even paying attention and he lands one.

Thats fishing i guess

Edited by Salty_Dog, 26 June 2010 - 10:45 AM.

[masejess33]

it really is that simple, no point having a $30 jig if you cant use it.
same as rods, people go get a $400 squid rod and cant ever use it how it is designed to be..
day in day out i see the same guys and girls fishing for squid.
most will get a few but some get nothing..
i have lost count how many times i have been fishing and guys and girls come up and say how they fished here for a week and not got anything.
then you watch them fish and you can see why.

i know because i was one of them a few years ago.

[trewy]

i think that the yo zuri shrimp hunters work the best in pink colour but no need for expensive jigs.hi glen im new to this website but i live in mt martha to.may i ask where you catch most of your squid in this area.

[glen]

hey there trewy. i can't remember the name of the street but there is a pumping/drainage thing in a cyclone fence square cage near the path down to the water ....if you know the area you probably know what i mean.

cheers, glen

[Beaker]

What's with the small colour selection?

My favourite jig, so far with over 50 squid to it's name is a Sumizoku, Black on it's back, white on it's belly, with a blend of coppery to purple hues in between. It's a weapon.
Got it from Bluewater Tackle in Cottesloe.

Here's a pic, with todays catch, all taken by yours truly, from boat, on the east side of Garden Island. Largest one 21cm.

Not sure where I've read this, but I've been told that squid prefer colours similar to the lighting at the time. Dark for overcast, or night-time, Bright for sunny, clear days. They supposedly have excellent vision, and i can confirm that they see my dark jig quite well in overcast, and even dark conditons. In saying that I've had heaps of success so far with this jig, in both sunny and overcast days. Definitely fairs better when the wind is not up though, they seem to like clear water, or atleast a clear surface.

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[bluewaterhunter]

squid are color blind.....

[shortytheyakker]

Yeah i have heard people doing very well on the black jigs lately, in fact one of the biggest i have seen was caught on a black jig the other day off Freo and i have been checking them out in the tackle stores, think i will get one,,

[glen]

There is always a black texta! hahaha

[Bartnmax]

Hi there fellas.

Ok, as I understand it squid actually only see two colours - black & white.
However, they are also very receptive to UV light & can also pick up movement very easilly.
Those bloody great big eyes pick up the slightest movement very well, but they also dont allow the squid to focus well on still objects, hence a stationary obejct with a poor sillouette outline can become all but invisible to a squid.

So generally speaking the best colour is the one that offers the best chance of the squid seeing the jig under whatever conditions you happen to be fishing at the time. As conditions change then so too will the best colour to fish for them.

So;
Clear water - darker colours such as neutrals, olive, browns, etc for best sillouette.
Murky water - lighter colours such as pink, red, orange (which tradtionally reflect UV best).
Deep water - lighter colours such as light blue, light green for best UV reflection where the pinks, reds, oranges often disapear from the colour spectrum.
One of the best deep water colours is actually good ol' white due to it's excellent ability to refelct UV rays down deep.

However, there are a couple of other factors to also coinsider.

With the advent of special UV reflective materials, many darker colours can now reflect UV rays as well as some of the lighter colours which tradtionally have been better with regard to UV reflection. These offer the best of both worlds in offering excellent UV reflection & also offering an excellent sillouette.

There are usually 2 distinct phases to squid fishing - movement to attract the squid's attention & a pause/drop to allow it to attack.
Movement can be enhanced via rod action, jig action, etc but the jig can then (to the squid) disapear when it is paused.
You can use a light colour which reflects UV well, but in shallow/clear water there are so many other light coloured objects that even a highly UV reflective object can become lost in amongst all the other highly UV refelective objects.
To overcome this we try to offer a 'sillouette' which is easier to see when stationary, or we impart minute movement to mimic a wounded bait fish.
This can be done with the use of ab shell refelctors which reflect light rays in all directions, or it can be done via use of swivell eyelets on the jig which allow it to 'flutter' duringt the pause/drop.

Interestingly, when there is a myriad of UV reflective objects floating about that could confuse our squid, he will often work out what is a wounded baitfish & what is just another useless object by feeling or 'tasting' with their candles. Squid will often 'tap' at a stationary jig to taste it (they have actually developed the abilty to taste with their candles for just this reason).
If we add a little 'taste' to the jig, via the use of scents, we can often fool a squid into thinking our jig is a nice, tasty, wounded baitfish.

With regard to eyelets on jigs a solid eyelet will allow better rod action to be imparted during the movement phase (when agreesively workingthe rod), but a swivell eyelet will allow the 'flutter' during pause/drop.

Bill A.

[INKA]

squid are color blind.....

Do you speak squid?

[INKA]

There is plenty of material around to agree and contradict with your statement. I have been experimenting for 10 months properly out of perth landbased in the river and ocean rock walls and marinas. I have got it down to a few specifics for our species and location. It is really only relative to shy or low activity squid. Active squid will find and nail just about anything. UV finishes work and colour variants make a difference but mainly size and action. In fact if you want to out fish bystanders it is down to the 1 percenters. Correct action rod, line, leader, snap vs loop, jig sink rate size belly foil and action, your action, enviro factors blah blah. It's all good.

Hi there fellas.

Ok, as I understand it squid actually only see two colours - black & white.
However, they are also very receptive to UV light & can also pick up movement very easilly.
Those bloody great big eyes pick up the slightest movement very well, but they also dont allow the squid to focus well on still objects, hence a stationary obejct with a poor sillouette outline can become all but invisible to a squid.

So generally speaking the best colour is the one that offers the best chance of the squid seeing the jig under whatever conditions you happen to be fishing at the time. As conditions change then so too will the best colour to fish for them.

So;
Clear water - darker colours such as neutrals, olive, browns, etc for best sillouette.
Murky water - lighter colours such as pink, red, orange (which tradtionally reflect UV best).
Deep water - lighter colours such as light blue, light green for best UV reflection where the pinks, reds, oranges often disapear from the colour spectrum.
One of the best deep water colours is actually good ol' white due to it's excellent ability to refelct UV rays down deep.

However, there are a couple of other factors to also coinsider.

With the advent of special UV reflective materials, many darker colours can now reflect UV rays as well as some of the lighter colours which tradtionally have been better with regard to UV reflection. These offer the best of both worlds in offering excellent UV reflection & also offering an excellent sillouette.

There are usually 2 distinct phases to squid fishing - movement to attract the squid's attention & a pause/drop to allow it to attack.
Movement can be enhanced via rod action, jig action, etc but the jig can then (to the squid) disapear when it is paused.
You can use a light colour which reflects UV well, but in shallow/clear water there are so many other light coloured objects that even a highly UV reflective object can become lost in amongst all the other highly UV refelective objects.
To overcome this we try to offer a 'sillouette' which is easier to see when stationary, or we impart minute movement to mimic a wounded bait fish.
This can be done with the use of ab shell refelctors which reflect light rays in all directions, or it can be done via use of swivell eyelets on the jig which allow it to 'flutter' duringt the pause/drop.

Interestingly, when there is a myriad of UV reflective objects floating about that could confuse our squid, he will often work out what is a wounded baitfish & what is just another useless object by feeling or 'tasting' with their candles. Squid will often 'tap' at a stationary jig to taste it (they have actually developed the abilty to taste with their candles for just this reason).
If we add a little 'taste' to the jig, via the use of scents, we can often fool a squid into thinking our jig is a nice, tasty, wounded baitfish.

With regard to eyelets on jigs a solid eyelet will allow better rod action to be imparted during the movement phase (when agreesively workingthe rod), but a swivell eyelet will allow the 'flutter' during pause/drop.

Bill A.

[ru 12 mug]

i think that the yo zuri shrimp hunters work the best in pink colour but no need for expensive jigs.hi glen im new to this website but i live in mt martha to.may i ask where you catch most of your squid in this area.

Trewy
I find it hard to tie anything else on besides a shrimphunter.....up here in brisbane they are the ducks nuts on tiger squid especially the orange.
the mug...aka...Paul