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[Mr_Willy]

And another with the hooks.....

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[Mr_Willy]

And my rigs.......First it on the ground - you can see the loop at the top of my line on the right - i just clip this onto a swivel connected to my main line. The float run free between this loop (the swivel stops it from sliding further) and the swivel which is connected to the pin - i never used to use a swivel, but it makes it much easier when i have to change damaged baits...

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[Mr_Willy]

And finally hanging up - with my boat as the back drop - obviously this is very, very short - usually my line is a good 2-3m..........at least....

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[Mr_Willy]

Thanks for moving all this Glen - i was going to ask you to do it, but didnt want to create extra work - just thought it would be better suited here, more people might find it too!!!

[squidjigdotcom]

Had to look a little to find the thread, makes more sense to be in this section anyways. Thanks for the photo's, they help quite a lot. In general, it looks like a good system.

A couple of ideas. The slip bobber is definitely a must, but with it rigged this way, can you cast it very effectively using a swivel for a bobber stop??? The way I use slip bobbers here they are completely adjustable can reel up the whole bunch tight to the rod and cast it as far as you want, and it will auto adjust to any dept I choose from 2 feet to 30 feet. Above the bobber I use a small bead that will not fit through the bobber, above that I tie on a small piece of cord at the depth I want my bait, wrapped several times around the line and cinched tight and ends trimmed so not too long. You can slide this for small changes in depth and just re-tighten. This will be wound into the reel and casts smoothly through the rod.

Both bait rigs look good, although on the larger design it looks like there is lead poured to the base. I think this could be a point of fewer hookups. If your bait rig is too heavy, it would tend to drag through the water towards you, and not rise up as much and snag the squid. With a bait rig, I would assume that a lighter weight that is more free flowing would work better.

Anyways, I finished the first proto-type, which I think actually worked out pretty well. First photo is the bare setup pin length is 17.5 cm. The hooks I had put on the pin are 2cm across which are small, I would use about 3.5cm on a production design. I definitely prefer a 2 hook pin design, as the 1st set keeps your bait from covering up the lower set. This part is a basic bait squid jig.

The top set "Bait Buddy Squid Jig" is used in conjunction with a standard baited squid jig. I set this up with a (head-up) design, as I think the setup will work best this way, and I'm thinking dead fish are more head up floaters anyways. This is a 4-point cage design that slides down over the top of the bait, it features 4 2cm squid hooks one on each corner of the cage, the inside points of the hooks stick slightly into the sides of the fish hold the bait in place and for support. There are two eyes at the top which sits to both sides of the bait rod, you clip a snap swivel through all three. This should nearly guarantee at least 50% more hookups.

I'm willing to make up about 12 of these (just the top part) for evaluation samples that will be offered for FREE. Will receive "2" with purchase of any "10 packs" of my other jigs. Shipping is $6.50USD. All that I ask is that I get evaluation feedback on how they work, or if any changes are suggested. If I get good feedback, then I will anticipate putting these into pruduction.

Here's the photo's

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[Mr_Willy]

They look really interesting..........i might have to grab some jags off of you then, as i need some more anyway......just have to wait till i get some more disposable cash..........

[Mr_Willy]

I reckon i might be able to redesign the jags that i have now, to a similar design. I went out and topped up my squid jag collection the other day, and as such have no need to purchase more until my next trip out - i might try something similar to your idea Jon, and see if it works.
If it does, ill be back on here putting in a order for your product, as i am sure that my home made edition wont last half as long!!
Cheers!
Nathan

[squidjigdotcom]

Good luck.... let me know how it works!!!!

Jon

[Mr_Willy]

I will let you know..............
I was thinking that i would pick up some of those squid jag hooks that you use on yours, and just connect them using wire to the top of my jag - hoping to create something as you have done, to hold them there, so that i can remove them, without untying the wire, each time i need a new bait..........
It probably wont be till July that i can get out in search of squid - unless i can convince the old lady that a day trip on the Sunday of our upcoming SA public holiday wont affect my studies.........
She has put a ban on me from fishing while i am at uni.......i guess mother knows best!
Cheers!
Nathan

[squidjigdotcom]

We just added baited squid jigs to our lineup. We have the standard size, and an ultra-wide size.

I think the ultra-wide design will definitely improve hookups. Hooks are 2 1/8" or 57mm wide with 16 points each set.

Any comments???

Jon

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[aok47]

Hi Jon,

Do the green tubes glow in the dark?

Cheers

AK

[squidjigdotcom]

Yes, the green tubes on the shanks of the hooks glow in the Dark.

[Mr_Willy]

Looks very interesting there jon!!
I definitely think the extra wide ones will improve hook up rates!!

[squidjigdotcom]

I think so too!!!! I've always heard complaints about poor hookups with the baited jigs. This is how one of my customers from Greece wanted them, and they say they work excellent!!!!!

They actually wanted the bottom hooks about 50% wider, but that was the largest I had.

With these new hooks, my large size hooks look SOOO small now!!

Jon

[ilikesquid]

I dont get this! can you put bait on a regular squid jig to help attract squid?

-Ross

[glen]

hi ross,

yes you could put some bait on a squid jig. i know i have seen some yo-zuri jigs with a flat top and an attached coil of wire where you can tie on a strip of bait.

however i have not really heard of people catching a lot doing this. most probably because not many people bother with this. the squid skewers (aka baited jigs) mention above seem to be the most popular option if you want to use bait at all.

cheers, glen

[ilikesquid]

ok. cool. what do you use the skewers or squid jig? (or what do you catch more with?)

-Ross

Edited by ilikesquid, 19 June 2005 - 05:32 PM.

[glen]

the most successful guys seem to use both...and tend to get a lot of their bigger squid on baited jigs. i am too lazy and tend to fish with prawn style jigs ...i am too busy working on websites lol

[macmaghnusa]

might seem like a dumb question, as I've never used a baited jag before, but what's the 'take' like with a floated jag? does the float bob around, then disappear? or is it a convincing take? is it necessary to strike? where I live in NW spain, nobody seems to use baited jags, they prefer cast & retrieve with a single yo-zuri type jig + glow light.
best,
mac

[peter]

And now, a couple showing the width of the hooks - i measure them and they sit 2cm from the pin...........The pin is 12.5cm long - maybe they arent 20+cm baits im using..........

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I baited the squid jigs with preserved bait. This preserved bait was soaked in fish oil and was sold in the fishing tackle shop.
They last longer and had very strong scent. From time to time I soaked the baited jig again. It worked really well. After fishing, I put the baited jig into the freezer and use it again in the next trip.
Many times the bait will slip backward to the hooks and cover the hooks.
I saw some ditchs on the back and the belly of the jig and fasten the bait with elastic cotton.
Try this method and you don't have to change the bait so often.
Peter