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#1 yevrah

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Posted 02 May 2003 - 02:50 PM

A lot of the time it's not the moon phase itself but the amount of light from the moon that affects squiding.

I know this is the case in my area as the lights at the wharf bring them in better when there is no light from the moon - due to either clouds or the fact that the moon has not risen yet.

Though I'd share this link on moonrise and moonset prediction.
http://www.auslig.go.../geodesy/astro/

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#2 adam

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Posted 14 October 2003 - 04:13 PM

This may sound silly to some of you, but i need to know what it means when theres a "new" moon or "full" moon ect, and how it affects fishing..

Ive heard alot of comments about the moons & fishing and i just dont get it :blink:
Has it got something to do with tides?? :beer

Any one who has any info about this, plz help me out! :th

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#3 Mr_Willy

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Posted 14 October 2003 - 05:45 PM

If you look into the sky around full moon, you will see a FULL moon, but a new moon means there will be NO moon. And the first and last quarters you will only see parts of a moon...............like the cheshire cat smile!!
As for the effect on fishing..................most fish will bite well around full moon...............
Mulloway bite very well on a full moon, but squid dont as far as i know. Snapper are also a very good thing to target around full moon. I think the reason squid dont bite so well is because they prefer little or no tidal movement, so a dodgish tide is good (tides move only once a day and very little movement at that) - do they have dodge tides outside of SA?? I think its only SA, gulf of carpentaria and Gulf of Mexico - but i might be wrong.
And yes it affects tides - as the gravity provided by the moon is what makes tides what tides are. For example, a full moon will bring big tides (moving from about .5m to 2m+) whereas a new moon (remember - no moon) will usually coincide with a dodge tide!
I hope ive answered your question somewhat...........
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Posted 14 October 2003 - 06:11 PM

I believe the moon plays a big part in fishing cycles but fish do have to eat and when ever they get a chance.
location ,duration of feeding times and depths are all variables affected by moon phase.
Squid tend to be a bit quite on a full moon ( although I and a client bagged out today) but the following days after a full moon when the tides have their greatest difference is when they go nuts.
Some believe squid hunt better at night with the aid of moon light and I tend toeward this theory.
The southwest coast of Victoria also has dodge tides where we on the central coast have 4 in a 24 hr. period..
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Posted 15 October 2003 - 01:32 PM

ahh..thats it... :beer

*its weird how the moon affects fishhing :th

anyway, thanks for the info Nathan & John!

so its better to fish when theres a full moon yeh?
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Posted 15 October 2003 - 02:49 PM

Adam,
I don't reckon it's better to fish for squid during a full moon, at least not at night...a little while back I was fishing for squid off piers 3-4 nights a week, and during a full moon I was catching zilch! Compared to >4 on most other nights.
But I have heard that other fish bite well during full moons.
My theory about the squid is that during a full moon there is enough light around for them to find their prey without using the pier lights, therefore pier catches during this time are down.
That's my 2 cents worth anyway.....

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Posted 15 October 2003 - 04:31 PM

I've spoken to the Pros a couple of times and they have told me that the New moon is the best time to fish.
The idea of the pier lights being brighter at this time makes good sense to me and I try to plan trips during the new moon. Or plan a trip when the moon will rise after I'm finished - say 1. am.
Unfortunately I cannot say if this actually helps as I have done well and badly on both lit and unlit nights.
I have to keep remembering to update the fishing diary everytime I go and by the time I am 72 maybe I will have figured it out!
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Posted 15 October 2003 - 09:34 PM

So your saying that the fullmoon acts as a big light which attracts the fish at night, like the lights of a pier would yeh? :blink:
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Posted 15 October 2003 - 09:58 PM

Adam,
Most people say it is a better time to fish for squid when there is no moon. Squid are attracted to light during the night and the darker the night the easier it is for squid to see the lights of a pier or those of a squid boat.
Even though most people say its better when there is no moon, you can still catch them during a full moon.
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Posted 16 October 2003 - 12:07 PM

aahhhh...i see.. :o

just wanted to know y everyone got excited when the was a full moon.. :P

thankyou verry much for the info guys.. :th
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Posted 21 October 2003 - 03:02 PM

Ahh... mysteries of the full moon. When there's a full moon here in the U.S. squid are no where to be found. The full moon reacts with the chemicals in your body and get people and animals kinda rowdy. When there's a full moon, high tide is at it's highest peak. I think it has to do something with the gravity pull of the earth towards the moon. .. beats me!? I'm no rocket scientist. There's my explanation. :geek
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Posted 21 October 2003 - 03:41 PM

It does have to do with the gravitational pull of the moon - read it in a fishing magazine.
If your fishing for fish - its good on a full moon, and the tides are better which gives you an ever better chance, but squid dont generally bite on a full moon at night - not that i target squid a lot at night anyway - find day time much, much better!!
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Posted 26 September 2007 - 04:07 AM

(yeah, I'm responding after 4years! lol)


I was out tonight with a pretty full moon. The water was really clear and nothing to be had.


I'm thinking it's probably a bad time to fish because there's so much light for them to see, and be seen. More moonlight means more hunting time at night and they've either eaten their fill, found new/other places to hunt, or are hiding from predators (or been eaten themselves already!)


Lots of factors, but there's no disputing the full moon makes for bad night squidding in my mind
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Posted 27 September 2007 - 12:24 AM

The Japanese view of things has nothing to do with light but is all about the currents. Of course we all know about high tides and low tides but the phases of the moon affect the tidal difference. During full and new moons, the tide difference is greatest and currents the strongest. This leads to a lot of feeding activity. On the other hand, 2 to 3 days after the first and last quarters, the diffirence is at its smallest and currents at their weakest, supposedly leading to the worst fishing.

I have also heard people say the full moon is best for salt fishing and the new moon for fresh water.

A lot of people also agree that the the top 3rd of the rising tide and bottom 3rd of the falling tide during the spring tides is the best time of all.

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As you can se from the graph, the strongest current will be from the afternoon to night. The evening, theoreticaly, being the "golden" time.

Personally, friends and I have a set of rocks that we try to go to on cloudless full moons because it seems to bring good bags. On the other hand, I have had big bags of メバルsebastes inermis 3 days after the quarter, theoretically the worst tide to fish.

Also, I got 6 aori last Thursday at Toyohama, Japan. This point is well known in the area and there is a well lit fishing pier. I never went anywhere near the lights and was able to get some good sized ones considering the season. All other sites I have checked, people are moaning about the poor catch this year :th

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Posted 27 September 2007 - 02:45 AM

great reply egi zed, thanks.

Interestingly, tonight is the full moon but I was out with no luck or even a sighting at two piers last night (very clear water) and grabbed a few 4 nights ago in similar conditions. One night was top of the high tide, the other was the bottom of low tide... so barely a current on both occasions which may have been an added disadvantage.

Bag limits were relatively easily made just weeks ago, but this string of nights seems to be the exception, rather than the rule this season.

Jigs are cheap, and piers are plentiful. I've enticed 4 others so far into trying their hand at squidding for the first time in the coming weeks, so I'll certainly be out regularly over the next few months.

I'll keep the tides/currents in mind, but my fishing time is only from 10pm-3am on nights I have free from other commitments, so I'll just go when it's convenient and hope for the best. :th
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Posted 27 September 2007 - 09:45 PM

The other thing you supposedly have going against you there is that you're missing the best time which is supposed to be twilight ;)

But really it all comes down to local conditions and local knowledge :th
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Posted 04 November 2007 - 12:38 PM

I'll be at Half Moon Bay on Tuesday Morning: (yeah, Melbourne Cup Day) with some friends. How does the Pier/Jetty go down there for squid?? Anybody have a clue?

I should turn up around 7-7.30am and probably stay till 1pm.
0.34m Low tide 5:37am
0.77m High tide 12:12pm
4 days before the new moon.

I'd say the only things not going for me are cold water and I'll miss dusk/dawn.
The later Low tide is 0.34m also, and the next High tide is 0.69meters, so I'll be there for the greatest currents.

What else am I missing/forgotten/not taken into account? Based on all the philosophies, legends and scientific observations, it seems to me that I should catch a bagful. I suppose I'll find out on Tuesday

Edited by sodden, 04 November 2007 - 12:48 PM.

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Posted 04 November 2007 - 01:25 PM

Cold waters not good ay. Went out on Tuesday night and got one 18cm and dropped a much bigger one (must get a gaff ;) ) A cold snap came through on Wednesday and when I went out on Thursday, I came home empty handed. Went out on the boat for snapper yesterday and pulling up the anchor I noticed the water was warm further down. Probably the squid have moved away from the shore to warmer waters. Looks like this season may be over...

On the other hand, Wednesday was a mid tide and Thursday was a small tide so it might be on again next week :th
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 11:00 PM

uh, to caugth fish, the best is wen are full moon, but for squid fishing, the best is new moon :ink





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Posted 29 January 2008 - 02:22 PM

i agree on that the best is a new moon on a full moon the rays of the moon make the squid move into it and go deeper off if your casting from a pier i have noticed it around mornington penisula and portsea pier. keep jigin.
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