Posted 10 February 2009 - 05:59 AM
6ft 10 in 175lb gator gar texas
300 fish febuary wisconsin
14 below zero
i will be shooting sharks in california the first week in aug and got an alligator trip for a 12 ft or bigger lined up for 2010 a tuna trip in the works hopefully and a squid would round it out nicely
Posted 10 February 2009 - 06:01 AM
41 lb oklahoma paddlefish
kentucky snapping turtles
201 big shad
Posted 10 February 2009 - 06:02 AM
4lb 1 oz 21 in shad wisconsin state record
world record needle fish
world record sting ray 143 lbs
Posted 10 February 2009 - 06:03 AM
another on of the big sting ray
56lb bighead carp
big silver carp (aka flying carp)
Posted 10 February 2009 - 07:08 PM
As for squid, I have speared them at night with a hand spear in shallow water using a spot light. They are pretty easy to catch.
Posted 10 February 2009 - 10:40 PM
Posted 11 February 2009 - 01:13 AM
dsyko1 who are you to attack me if you don't like what i do fine but let me explain my actions to you since you seem to be of the uneducated type
first off carp are an invasive species much like the rabbits and mice that have become a major problem in your neck of the world. carp have all but destroyed many a lake and river system here in the us.
stingrays on the east cost have boomed in population due to shark populations all but being wiped out by people finning them. with out their naturl preditors the population has exploded. and they are reeking havoc on the clam, oyster, and crab populaitons.
by using a bow and arrow i can selectivly harvast the problem fish without hurting the others. if more people would take up bowfrishing maybe we could make a huge impact on the problem.
lastly i try to utilize all the fish and turtles i harvast
i eat turtle, stingray, paddlefish, gar and anything else that is ediable
the carp are given to crawfish trappers, turtle farmers, mink ranch, i smoke some of the carp and i make fish oils and bait for my trapline.
so you see dsyko1 it is you that is a disgrace being so uneducated that you would attack a person and a sport which you know nothing about that. i am proud to be a bowfisherman and and happy that what i do directly effects the ecosystem that has been put off balance by by other uneducated people in this world.
thanks for your time
Posted 11 February 2009 - 09:38 AM
Posted 11 February 2009 - 11:30 AM
Too many fisheries have been destroyed by people taking ridiculous amounts of easy target fish, and I guess most people think the worst whenever they see a huge haul.
Good luck on the squid with a bowline. should be easy enough if you can attract some near the boat.
Posted 11 February 2009 - 12:25 PM
Posted 11 February 2009 - 01:00 PM
i found this conversation which seems to say that you could do it in the ocean only
also i found the definition of "spear gun" in the Victoria fishing regulations reads as follows (note the reference to "arrow"):
spear gun means a mechanical device or other
thing that is capable of imparting propulsive
energy to a spear or arrow;
though i wonder about how controlled weapons laws might also restrict who can use or carry or bow for fishing in victoria. i am guessing you would need a licence of something like that.
EDIT: As far as I can see, a bow could be considered either a "controlled weapon" (if it fell within the definition of "spear gun") or as a "dangerous article" under the Control of Weapons Regulations. So you could only carry and use such an article with lawful excuse. So provided that you were carrying the bow at sea then I guess you would be OK. But seems like all the good bow fishing is based around carp fishing so you would be fresh out luck. Maybe South Australia would have more easy going rules.
Posted 12 February 2009 - 12:13 PM
Besides he is using everything he takes and is trying to keep the balance of nature, I think that is what our role should be. We cull kangaroos for dog food here when they get too numerous rather than see them starve, so we do the same thing already.
After all is said and done, the damage he can do with a bow and arrow, or any of us with a spear or rod I might add, is a drop in the ocean (pardon the pun) to what a commercial beam trawler can do in 1 hour. These things work 24 hour shifts for days at sea and haul up tonnes of everything from the seafloor every copuple of hours. And there are hundreds of them operating all over the world!
They just go along raking and scooping up the seafloor, raping the life out of everything for about two hours then haul it all up on deck for sorting, by which time most things in there are dead already because they have been crushed from the sheer biomass in the net or the force of moving through the water.
The net holes which are meant to allow smaller fish to escape get blocked by larger fish being pressed against them and become water tight or close because of the massive force of that much weight being dragged through the water (think of a massive weight inside a keeper net). So even when something is thrown back, it is most likely dead or dying and is returned to a bare desert of sea floor. The amount of sheer incidental waste and destruction of in-edible species and habitat which is vital for the ecosystem is shocking.
I personally think it is awesome that there are such numerous fish large enough to hit with an arrow. I like the fact that the fish has a fighting chance to escape combined with the skill of the shooter, light, visibility etc. The built in miss factor makes things fair I think.
Why not I say, I think the more ways to get fish the better, as long as there is minimal damage done to the environment, go for it and enjoy!
Posted 12 February 2009 - 12:37 PM
I'm certain that you cant bowfish in any inland waters in victoria (or even be in possesion of a bow for the purpose of fishing whilst at or near the river). same as the spear rules. You might get away with it for floundering, or basically anywhere that a spear is allowed. (ie not within 30m of a river mouth, not from a jetty or wharf, etc, etc)
Whether you could use it from a boat i'm not sure. Depends whether they class it as a firearm as well. Its illegal to take any fish anywhere in victoria (including open ocean) with a firearm.
Certainly means no spearing huge carp up on the murray..
I think the water is just to murky (so to speak), and i wouldn't do it. Its murky enough about being able to use a handspear for floundering (if the ranger wants to be an asshole about it).
Maybe we should all move to wisconsin.
Posted 12 February 2009 - 01:25 PM
you guys may get more info on this site.
glen give me your address i would love to mail you some copies of my first dvd to help you and others understand more of what i do. heck we may even get to shoot a few squid together someday.
go to my website www.bigtime-bowfishing.com for a little taste of volume 2
Edited by bigtime bowfishing, 12 February 2009 - 01:29 PM.
Posted 12 February 2009 - 05:45 PM
great topic. I wont cast judgement because the laws and culture over here in Vic. /Aus is very different to parts of the U.S.
Here we do not allow the harvest of reptiles as a general rule. Nor do we allow spearfishing in inland waters. Bow hunting is also illegal just to make the point.
Do not try this if you want to fish illegally. We have bag limits...some are just as generous as the US.
In some ways, (the animal welfare people wont agree) but a dead fish is a dead fish. If it is for food, kill it quickly and humanely. If not, don't kill it at all or try to catch it in my book. Genuine bycatch is a different matter.
Regardless of your views...there may not be a right or wrong answer...i admire the skill involved.
Blue water Hunter.
Posted 13 February 2009 - 06:22 AM
don't worry about sending me the dvd. but thanks very much for the offer though. i watched the preview on your website.
Posted 25 February 2009 - 01:16 PM
Regulation 106 - Use of firearm or other weapon to take, destroy or injure fish prohibited
... the use of a firearm, crossbow or bow and arrow to take, attempt to take, destroy or injure fish is prohibited throughout Victoria.
And I also note the definition of a spear gun now expressly excludes a bow and arrow:
spear gun means a mechanical device or other thing that is capable of imparting propulsive energy to a spear or arrow, but does not include a crossbow or a bow and arrow;
Posted 21 March 2009 - 07:13 PM
You sure are handy with that bow mate! OMG!
the last of them
another on of the big sting ray
56lb bighead carp
big silver carp (aka flying carp)
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